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   Friday, January 31, 2003
does that mean i have to read it in that order?


but in this context wouldn't it be different? but i guess it means your patience is... slow. From dictionary.com, it seems laconic, at it's best sense, just means stoic or something like that... it can even be brusque. Pete: you being brusque?

also: Was reading the entire Q&A section at jonathancarroll.com

he recommends: China Mellville's Perdido Street Station. Intrigued, will pick it up one day.
says of Haruki Murakami: I like some of his works, but his main characters tend to have the same voice
says also to read instead of harry potter: Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials.

lotsa things to gleam from there.... and he's funny as hell. That'll be the rest of my day.


   Thursday, January 30, 2003
1) I'm glad to have caused some pain, and to see you bounce back up. But what are you going to do... ah, there's always ICQ phone. Not always a good thing, but then again, Dale's not a good testament for anything.

I still don't see it as real neglect... just lack of choice. But catching up is good I guess. I have lotsa catching up to do myself. However, video editing, downloading and colouring AND ESPECIALLY reading does currently pose a very nice distraction of which I'm happy to be experiencing. Ah, reading. It's orgasmic.

I know how it was like? I dunno, I don't even recall being in my shoes. Serious. Therefore, lack of hindsight on hindsight.

Hmz, and yes, strangely enough this page has had the thumbs up. Good job everyone. Let's try to keep it moving no matter how slowly. One reason I want to keep it moving is cos in July/August, we have UNIVERSITY. Now's the best time to do something as time consuming. That, and our lease is currently up in April. Do we move? Do we stay? Wassup? Do we stop? And seriously, rush job or not, the writing should be able to holding the strip up, and I bet pete has thing's planned. I mean, crap like Okashi whatever survived while looking like crap.

Pete: one thing.... will you convert to Islam if needed? And yes, the shoes always end up somehow with the other person. Odd indeed. Love is like Kueh Lapis is it not?

Laconic. Gotta check that word up. Vocab is limited indeed.


Heh... I'm cool with it... I'm having an email relationship with a 17-year-old Malay girl and I have no idea where we're headed, but she seems really desperate and ironically, that means I have to be the one to temper her enthusiasm with laconic patience. *sigh*

There... told two more people. Keeping stuff to yourself is hard. I think 3 people knowing is good enough.

Comic... well, I'd hate to disappoint our readers, but truly, it's no fun doing something when your heart's not in it as much as it used to be. We'll set more realistic datelines (i.e. none) and Alvin will just have to tweak his signature appropriately. Funny thing though... People seem to think there was a marked improvement in the latest strip, although I do recall Wailiong admitting he did a rush job. Congratulations to all, anyway.


   Monday, January 27, 2003
we are no longer on hiatus.

there has been about a month and a half since the last strip proper, and more than a month since the Christmas special wailiong did... which means that there has been more than enough time to catch up.

Upwards and onwards!

Strip will be up tomorrow.

And story has been updated.


Oh... heh. Didn't know. Ah well.

The Story Thus Far:

Ben, lost in thought, finds himself standing outside a church, he goes in and soon starts dreaming of a better time, with his girlfriend Lydia.

We cut to a dark office, where a mysterious stranger has procured a hostage... Ben's girlfriend.

Ben wakes up the next morning, a Sunday, to discover that several members of the congregation have found him. Fortunately, the rector of the parish, a James Cross, takes care of him and dresses his wound.

We are treated to a shot (pun not intended) of a lone gunman, who swears to protect Father James, for a reason yet unknown. The gunman gets into position in the Church's upper level, overlooking the altar.

James is giving the sermon when he is shot suddenly...

...which brings us to the present.



   Sunday, January 26, 2003


   Saturday, January 25, 2003
Let's put it out Tuesday and see the fan reaction.

Oh, and hiatus now, issit?


   Friday, January 24, 2003
i don't see why we have to wait for each other, if a deadline was looming, then all that waiting won't be a good thing.

8 mile! soon! hero! first!


   Thursday, January 23, 2003
What do you think, Wailiong? I want WL to comment before I say anything.


   Wednesday, January 22, 2003
check below.


   Tuesday, January 21, 2003
It seems okay, but how does it look in monochrome, or duochrome... or whatever?

Because if we're going to introduce colour all of a sudden... it might not sit well with our audience.


WARNING: BIG IMAGE. Small file size, but big image. At 1100 height, it's the longest ever.

I'm bereft with ideas on how to format this beast.




   Monday, January 20, 2003
Then please change my eye.

20%... we are at page... 12... 12*5 is already 60, and the pages haven't reached the end of current script yet. this is a saga!

What's threec?


   Sunday, January 19, 2003
New page of script updated. Script is now 20% complete. http://peterlin.three-thirteen.com/script.txt

I actually prefer threec for some reason.

Gigas> Spoke to Weiwen about it... no change as yet. Will try to debate my point further. Thanks for hearing me out.

WIP> Nice job so far. I assume you're going to work on the vest next.


   Thursday, January 16, 2003
It very dark... even on goot monitor...

Can remedy?


   Wednesday, January 15, 2003
EDIT: FINISHED PRODUCT. Is it ok? Haphazard, maybe can change james' face.




pete: i think you translocated your fat to me. :/

also... heck lah. concept art. and i guess you be not writing while shitting.

also... what's up with blogger ftp? viewing the archieves are ok, cos they're updated. but not the main page. odd. ftp error. cannot write file. check the log.


   Tuesday, January 14, 2003
Random comments:

1. I still think we shouldn't have used the Chinese (read: no dreadlocks) James Cross. Ah well. =)

2a. Have I grown thinner in the sketch of the three of us? Wow. How appropriate. I've lost 3 kg over the past 2 days (thanks to the stomach flu) and I'm now a svelte 78kg. Okay, maybe not svelte.

2b. Wai, your right hand in the sketch looks AMAZINGLY big. Too much pocket billards? =P

3. Bishi looks unique! Great job! Don't like all the "bandages", though.

4. Benwaiting - I'll go with benwaiting1 and original benwaiting... but 1 takes precedence.




New page updated, and... yeah, that should be it. Going thru last bits of colouring, basically the extra hard shading. i'm killing myself. stupid,stupid rat creatures!


   Monday, January 13, 2003


ok. you guys got 4 Bens to choose from. Tell me if you all still want the first one, i'll just change the font.
And the cross is now solid. pass? yes? no?



   Sunday, January 12, 2003
yeah, both quotes are from JOC. THe more i think of it the more i like the James quote'
I don't like the first cross cos it's a little crooked. (comics sans ms)... if i sharpen the other t is it ok?

second pic.. I need a much better quote. Not nice.. :(
any ideas?


Jars of Clay! w00t!

I prefer the one on the left. The "blurred" cross seems too subliminal for its own good.

Oh, and doesn't James look drastically different now? =P This is the Chinese James Cross, not Joshua's twin brother.

And the second pic looks good. I'll try to work towards that as the ending page.

Thanks, Alvin.

Oh, and BTW: Get Avril off the blog! Heh... Kidding.


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   Saturday, January 11, 2003
just cause you've never done it before don't mean you don't do it. why walk the familiar path?


NO VOLCANO HIGH. Try to tread on the grounds of common sense... volcano high... isn't. I don't mind ben being werewolf at all, cos if your worry is that the audience won't get it, then why pander to them? you did say (paraphrased) that it was your pet project, something personal, so i guess whether they understand that a garou isn't a bishi per se isn't really the point. i'd like you to go back to the roots of the story... found that bit the coolest. when ben became human... i was actually disappointed.

I'd agree that the nudity isn't that much of a plus point, but i haven't seen a nude girl for ages now, and *phew*!

I dunno... i find Saiyuki to be some sort of.. subset of genericness of animeness. But then again, i never really looked close and hard at it.


Hmmm... Maybe it's genetic, maybe it's cynicism, but her face is but (no pun intended) the only attractive part of the pic. She's gorgeous, but the fact that she's nude has nothing to do with it.

I more or less guessed "girl" actually, but I never thought it was Grace. She seems like an amazing person, Wai... you lucky dog, you.

Have I mentioned how much I love Justice? She's got the whole Saiyuki feel, but her jaw's a lot stronger than the typical male. It's a very strong juxtaposition compared to the traditional depiction of Justice, which wields a sword. I think you've got one helluva concept there, Wai...

Which reminds me... question for story. Should vampires be as supernatural as Sound of Silence gets? Or should I push the limits and turn it into Volcano High?


hmz... i'm never sure if i'm a hair man, an eye man, a shoulder man, a breast man or a butt man.

but sure, i'll be a butt man just for this while. hmz... would be that that butt is inspired? but i wouldn't say that, lest i be a broken man.

WWL: And WWW knows cos you told him. Word gets around. Sorry tho, but you know I happen to talk to sam once in a while, and sometimes, on those azure mooned days, you might pop up in conversation.

Pete: Just make sure you write those ideas down ok? And keep that drive, we might be slowing and bumbling around, but you gotta push on before the story really leaves your mind.

I notice some layering problems in justice, is that inherent from source?


   Friday, January 10, 2003
Woooo! Fan-art! He's a little too buff to be Ben, though.... I still prefer Wailiong's concept.

But no, I haven't progressed with story - I have a few more ideas in mind, but nothing concrete. Sorry.

And no, Wai... I have NO IDEA what's happening with your life. It's cute that Alvin, Jack and Sam know but I don't. No worries there... they are your classmates after all. =)

Just tell me if you're comfortable with me know about it (whatever it is), yeah?




don't pressume to assume.


i'm not sure if things in your life need fixing, or you're fixing someone else's life, or you're just adding another cog to your endless wheel of perpetual motion.

the thing is, the moment we return, i'd still like to keep it at a good speed. and one thing's for sure, if you don't draw fast enough, pete won't get the impetus to write fast enough. right? pete? did you do any story during your MC?

i must make this point. I am currently still apprehensive. but still, this life is yours, not mine, (whassup (?)) and therefore I shall try to keep mum.

And dad too. My parents are cool.

Oh, and I've told Sam and Jack. That ok? pete deserves to know too I believe, but let my tongue no longer spread the word of what dreams may come, if any at all.

comic priority? not chore?

am still moody... no thanks to a startling dream i had this morning at work. sigh. will post it up once i finish fleshing it out on one of my various rant sites.


   Thursday, January 09, 2003
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well, check once a day then.

and since pete'll be using less internet at work too, that'll likely mean the updates will come at night. don't quote me on that tho, right, pete?

and if pete had something really urgent to say, wouldn't, erm, you, post it somewhere argh I dunno.

mind's a miasma of puzzle pieces from a thousand different jigsaws.

update on hiatus, well, you've just given one, so that's cool. I'll move the release of this comic to the 21st then. Should give you plenty of time. Pete, you ok with that?
Still, is _that_ the only thing keeping you awake till 2 am?

*thou shalt not rant, thou shalt not rave. at least i'm alive, not in some... erm... coffin*... can't seem to rhyme rave... dave... fave.. argh fuggedaboutit.

edit: WWL! Realised in second pic James has an extreme rump. It's good enough to go skiiing on!


   Wednesday, January 08, 2003
oh, but wth, i'll try with a next tues dateline.

wwl, do update on hiatus.


i'm not gonna colour until the hiatussing is over. oh, and until i feel better and less sleepy. by nobe ib kiwwing mwe.

tell me when.


   Saturday, January 04, 2003
No worries there, Wailiong... when we compile all the pages into a book/flash presentation, then we can do the touching up. Now we just do what we can.




0just draw... once drawn, it's coloured. once coloured, it's up. we'll take it as it comes. people may be dissapointed, but screw them!

edit:if you really wanna to, just relax, release slowly even if it causes lack of fluidity like rising stars or battle chasers. who cares anyway.


   Friday, January 03, 2003
until wwl finishes drawing the next page. he's done 1 frame. should I work with that? I can.


At least you can see the updated floobles... I waste pageviews just trying to refresh them on my PC.

How long are we going on hiatus for? People are asking.


eh beezle, that's what I thought. As much as I did have blogger problems (no longer) I no longer have them thankfully. And no problems with any other site.

Maybe you'd like to find software that can clear your index.dat?


   Thursday, January 02, 2003
now as read whole rant, liked this one:

"and recently I've found that i was loosing my grip on the story - when you completely rewrite scripts after all the art is done because it doesn't feel right, it means something isn't right. I took today as a 'In Service' day to sit down and do what I haven't done in four months - write. Hammer out the rest of chapter three, in detail. See how things fit together, see where better ties between things can be made. When I do this, i can add better layers of story and humor to the strips that has be so missing lately."

prior comment kinda out of point.


and later, when the readers read his rant, they can only just shake their head.


   Wednesday, January 01, 2003
Actually, is the guy wearing a belt or something? how come the shirt somehow justs tightens around his waist?